Should Florida Counties Allow Domestic Registry?

Pinellas County will become the sixth county in Florida to adopt a domestic registry, if commissioners approve the proposal.

St. Petersburg, Clearwater and Gulfport already have their own local domestic registries recognizing same-sex marriages.

Now Pinellas County expects to vote in 2013 on a proposal for a countywide domestic registry that grants domestic partners – gay and straight – many of the same rights as married couples.

A public hearing is scheduled for Jan. 15.

Although domestic registries are catching on across the nation, from Key West to Kansas City, Florida has a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union between a man and a woman.

Should Pinellas County, Florida, adopt a domestic registry? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

Even as Florida counties adopt domestic registries, the state will not recognize them. Do you agree? Leave your views in the comments below.

The provision would allow, in part, domestic partners to make health care decisions for each other, including for end-of-life care, among other things.

Should domestic partners be granted rights now given only to men and women who are married? What do you think?

Juju Stevens December 31, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Under anti-misegenation laws, I could not have legally married Dan in some states until after 1967, when Loving vs. Virginia was decided. (Not that we could have married that young... but you see my point. or at least, everyone should). When reviewing California's Proposition 8 (which restricted marriage to opposite-sex couples), Judge Vaughn R. Walker cited Loving v. Virginia to conclude that "the [constitutional] right to marry protects an individual's choice of marital partner regardless of gender". On more narrow grounds, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed.
E King December 31, 2012 at 06:31 PM
For all the "ugh's" There are LEGAL ways to pass-on, share, make medical decisions or adopt children without dragging the whole of society into the pit of degradation of society without the pushing of a few to acceptance of perverse unnatural lifestyles. Call an attorney and get whatever you want done legally, don't drag the rest of us down your rat hole!
Michael D. December 31, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Dan, What would those beliefs and morals be, being the fact that most of the founding fathers were not what most would consider christians. There is no mention of God or Lord other than in the proper writing of the dates in the documentation that created this nation. How does pro LGBT businesses make it any easier for people to walk away from their kids. The divorce rate in this country according to the census bureau is 51%. Also how does it promote adultery? Do you have some real facts/statistics that it promotes it more than people who are married? It sounds like you are making an agrument without anything to back said agrument.
Michael D. December 31, 2012 at 07:04 PM
Dan, How do you know it was an abomination to them? Do you have some documentation or direct quote that says they were against it. I guess those strong "christian" beliefs that are falsely (other than John Adamsn) assumed that the Founding Fathers had are what you are making a judgment on. Then again, lets us follow our Founding Fathers in all waves of thought, make Slavery Legal again, because that wasn't morally wrong to them.
Michael D. December 31, 2012 at 07:08 PM
E King, How is this the degradation of society or a few preverse unnatural lifestyles. What happen to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
Dunedin Observer December 31, 2012 at 07:38 PM
What's next, marry your dog? Your sister, brother? Just heard today of a guy who donated his sperm to two lesbians, the females split and now he is ordered to pay child support even though he signed a contract and just donated sperm. Be careful what you wish for, there are alot of ramifications and stuff you haven't thought about. Being celibate is the best way to roll. Avoid aids, kids, and a naging partner.
-Ed Harris- December 31, 2012 at 07:48 PM
Mr King you really should not refer to Christians as being perverse!
Dan Pressler December 31, 2012 at 08:30 PM
michael d - there is extensive references to Christianity in the personal papers of many/most/all of the founding fathers - not surprising considering a majority of them were seminary educated. Even Jefferson, whose beliefs were rather unusual, believed in Christian Morals. Plus there is that little clause "We are endowed by our Creator (another title for God the Father) with certain unalienable rights....."
Cecilia December 31, 2012 at 08:31 PM
" pit of degradation of society without the pushing of a few to acceptance of perverse unnatural lifestyles." What a statement! LOLOLOL HAHAHAH. Why on earth do YOU care who some one else marries/loves/lives with IF you are not involved, i.e. marrying loving or living with. Get over yourself. Pit of degradation, what terminology - still laughing.....
Cecilia December 31, 2012 at 08:32 PM
I like my dog much much more than I do most people......
-Ed Harris- December 31, 2012 at 09:35 PM
Dan, Creator may be another name for your god the father but may not be that for someone else hence the pure genius of the writers. We are a nation, not a christian nation. A nation of many not just WASP's and for the first time White men are permanently out numbered by women, and other races of people. Which in translation means democracy can finally begin. But hey, there is still plenty of land in South America to be had and dominated by mid-evil ideas. As for here, we are moving forward! Together! Wanna come? Great! If not, your loss!
Dan Pressler December 31, 2012 at 10:57 PM
Ed - do you realize "Forward" is the tag line of many socialist/marxist/communist groups. America was founded by Christians - look at the history of Jamestown, Plymouth Rock, Pennsylvania as some of the many examples of the Christian foundations of America. America is not a Democracy - it is a Republic. It is supposed to be a constitutional Republic but Obama & his Forward Crowd are ignoring laws & the constitution. If you want to live someplace other than the america I grew up in you are more than welcome to move someplace else as you seem to desire I do. There is no way on Gods green & shining planet that I would willingly join the immoral, atheistic, fiscally bankrupt society you seem to favor. By becoming the only country in the world that does not expect immigrants to adapt to the existing culture (I know we did not so that when we arrived but that is not a topic for this thread) we have become something less than what we were.
-Ed Harris- January 01, 2013 at 05:28 AM
Dan, Happy New Year! I'll say a prayer for you. BTW we are all immigrants!
Robert Heiney January 01, 2013 at 05:28 PM
America wasn't "Founded" by anyone. It was always here. Christians just stole it from it's rightful inhabitants. Now that's the Christian way! Isn't it.
Robert Heiney January 01, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Domestic Partners, should only get what's theirs. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to share 50/50, then get married. Same sex too! Who really gives a crap if they don't throw it in your faces, or flaunt it. Let's marry our pets too. Man you people should have better things to bitch about. Like income taxes! Let's get rid of that first, then we can worry about who lives with who or marries anyone!
Diane S January 01, 2013 at 05:41 PM
If marriage were legalized for gay and lesbian couples, then the "adultery" would be eliminated, and the ease with which they could "walk away" from their children would be the same as for heterosexual couples. Problem solved!
Shelley January 01, 2013 at 08:04 PM
Live & Let Live. Pass it.
Dan Pressler January 01, 2013 at 08:23 PM
Ed - I doubt your prayers are to my God or the God of the Founding Fathers. As I acknowledged - although obliquely - I know we are all either immigrants (or from immigrant ancestors. Even the 'native' Americans immigrated from Asia via the Bering straights but there were no natives here at that time.
-Ed Harris- January 02, 2013 at 12:03 AM
Dan- Your insensitivity and unchristian like comments are only outdone by your historical ignorance. In fact actual history shows us the following: Historian Gregg L. Frazer argues that the leading Founders (Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Wilson, Morris, Madison, Hamilton, and Washington) were neither Christians nor Deists, but rather supporters of a hybrid "theistic rationalism". Dan that study was done in 2012 and is very current and widely recognized by the Historical Community. We are but a nation of American people.
michael mirra January 02, 2013 at 12:27 AM
Not ALL immigrants. There was a whole race of people living here before Anglo-Saxons arrived. That is when we began to bully, buy & steal a homeland. We perpertrated genocide upon the red man in THEIR homeland. The Anlgo-Saxons were the aliens that the people that lived here tried to expel, but our technological advancement led to the GOOD CHRISTIANS slaughtering the occupants of this land.
michael mirra January 02, 2013 at 12:32 AM
Talk about your God & the God of the founding Fathers. If you are a modern day religious right advocate, check out this scene of the real christ defing the religious right of his time. That's why he was killed. You might want to see it as some God's master plan, but it was apolitical assasination. He was too left leaning, too radical & had too much influence. The religious right & the romans eliminated him because he was treasonous. Blasphomy is religious treason against the established order. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xq6VStVcY8
Lance Somers January 02, 2013 at 01:17 AM
Been watching this thread today. Your problem is much like educated men of old trying to persuade the general populace the earth was not flat, as was accepted by the dunderheads of the day.
michael mirra January 02, 2013 at 04:37 AM
ed harris is too educated for this post. he knows what he's talking about & he's way above the heads of these people here. They'll never relate to the theistic rationalism & they will think you're off base because it shakes their reality spere & they find that a threat. They won't digest what you said. It will just make them mad at you & they'll think you're crazy. Your statment is way beyond their powers of comprehension.
Michael D. January 02, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Dan, With the old Communism history texts there were a lot of "Christian" morals put on our Founding Fathers. But as those restraints were taken off and real research has been put into their past you will see most followed the basic rules of religious code that has been around much longer than the 100 CE/BC that Christianity started. Also how do you know whom the Creator they refer to is. Being "God" isn't mentioned at all. Judaism started roughly 1500 B.C. or Hinduism started around 2000 B.C.. How do we know they were not referring to them. As far as Adultery, most of our Founding Fathers were well into that.
Michael D. January 02, 2013 at 02:44 PM
Thank you Ed, Couldn't find that study. Dan is obviously going with the old U.S. Communism History text which were formatted by the Government to teach Americans that we were in the religious right in our fight against Communism. And the only apple tree story as well.
Paul Ray January 08, 2013 at 10:14 AM
First off, we pay taxes like anyone else and yet we are entitled to none of the benefits straight people are allowed. Is that in your mind fair or even moral? Second of all, I am a born again Christian and openly Gay and in a relationship for 14 years. Again, are you going to even mention morality? My relationship between the Lord and I is exactly that, between he and I, and I have no nudging from the Holy Spirit that it is in anyway unacceptable. Thirdly, I look around myself and cannot find but a small number of straight couples that have been together for even half as long we have, albeit my Mom and Dad were married for 56 years till my Mom passed away. So where does all the crap come from about DPR encourages/promotes adultery? And making it easier to walk away from kids? Walking away from kids can be done married or not and has nothing to do with DPR. Where are your facts?
winfredable January 08, 2013 at 12:02 PM
People should treat other person as equally. studentshelp.info
Robert Heiney January 08, 2013 at 03:45 PM
You're just a hater. Pure and simple. Hate will consume you and swallow you whole. Paul Ray is absolutely right! He pays his taxes to the government, just like the rest of us. Why shouldn't he reap the benefits. As far as morality goes, who are YOU to judge anyone! You must first expose your moral aptitude before we judge someone else. And it must include everything! The big question here is WHY does it bother anyone, about other people and their personal sexual choices? Don't worry about it.
Paul Ray January 08, 2013 at 07:01 PM
Amazing. A comment that contextually and grammatically made zero sense. Thanks for the chuckle, now please crawl back under that rock would you?
Diane Randolph January 11, 2013 at 01:18 PM
Absolutely Pinelas County should establish a Domestic Partner Registry. This will take nothing away from anyone, but will give peace of mind to domestic partners who will then have the same rights as married couples. Time to join the real world and stop being selfish.


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